>. . .  And what about Sodom?  God NUKED an entire city!  What about
>the flood where God wiped out ALL CIVILIZATION!!!  Untold millions lost
>their lives, didn't they?  Untold millions are now rotting in hell
>because they didn't accept God, and, that's a bit unfair because they
>had until the end of their lives to accept God right?  Well, God cut
>their lives short.  Had he not

Paul, what do you want me to tell you?  That a person can do anything
they want and still live with God in Heaven for eternity.  Wouldn't it
be unjust for a wicked person to have paridise?  I know you may mention
Taquemada, etc., but Paul, you don't know where Taquemada is, and you
must consider false grace and what it really means to be a Christian.
Christianity isn't a license to sin as much as you want.  People
shouldn't wait to accept God at the end of their lives.  People
shouldn't brush off sin and become numb.  In your example, God ended
their lives.  They had the event of the end of their lives.  For some, it
is dying by natural causes, for others it is an accident, others it is
health or disease...or etc.  There is no cutting of life short.  In life, 
there is beginning...living...ending....eternity.  When Sodom and
Gomorrah went down, those lives ended.  They were not "cut short".  The
point is....don't wait till the deadline to make the choice because you do
not know when the deadline is.  All that is known is that the deadline is
coming evermore closer.  

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>>Paul, you baffle me.  You insist that there is no God yet you argue so
>>avidly against Him.  You are so convinced that there is no God yet you
>>must discuss Him.  Why?
>>
> 
>Well because, JJ, one of the better ways to disprove something is suppose
>that it is true, then find contradictions.
> 

Paul, you will never disprove God.  People might choose not to believe in
Him, but they cannot disprove Him.  But what I am asking is why, Paul, do
you say you want to believe and enter the argument set in your view that
there is no God, arguing against Him so and having great length
discussions about Him if you are so convinced that He doesn't exist?  Why
do you want to talk about something that supposedly doesn't mean anything
to you?  I am curious as to why.  At the mention of Jesus Christ, people
put up defenses.  At the mention of Jesus Christ, everyone gets wound up.
Why?

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Paul, I quoted the scripture to you and paraphrased the scripture to you
and I have told you the way to salvation through Jesus Christ.  Paul, I
will say this once again:  true:  I have said specifically that you must
accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior to have eternal life.  I have
not said and am in NO PLACE TO SAY that you are going to hell.  Why is it
that people want me to preach hell, fire, and brimstone, when I want to
preach salvation through Jesus Christ?  True, hell has to be considered,
but that is not my focus.  Based on scripture, if one has heard the Truth,
they are held accountable for that, and if one refuses the Truth and
dies/the rapture occurs, then that person faces hell, but look at where
you stand now.  Don't try to say that I am condemning you to hell when I
can't.  Paul, when will you die?  What changes will you go through?  I do
not know this nor do you.  What I can say though is that Jesus Christ is
the way to change.  In the past here is basically what I have said/quoted/
paraphrased:

	"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son
        that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have
        everlasting life." John 3:16

	Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.  No one comes
        to the Father except by me."  John 14:6

>I have not accepted Jc as my savior, therefore, I will go to hell
>REGUARDLESS OF ANYTHING ELSE, by your own words.
> 

By my own words...since it is I who am finally putting my true words
here:

Paul, you haven't accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord.
Therefore, you are not saved, are not a Christian.  BUT, you have the
chance now to make that decision.  You may die today.  You may die in
80 years.  You may not make the choice today, but you may become a
Christian in 10 years.  All I say is do not put off that choice.  The
deadline is closer.  What I say is Jesus is the key to salvation and
Jesus is the way to change.  I cannot and am in no place to say, "Paul,
you are going to hell."  I CAN'T say that.  I can say what could happen
in the long run based on what Christ Himself said and that is all. Again,
you and I don't know how you may change and when you may die or when the
rapture will occur; therefore, neither of us can say where you will end
up. Again, neither of us can say where you will end up.
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		Now that is a summary of my TRUE words that I have said
                in various ways many times. 

. . . 
Paul, I have said what I am going to say before:  I will not give up hope
in you.  Even after you leave JMU and I leave JMU, I will not give up
hope in you.  We will go our separate ways, but I hope and pray to see
you in the future in Heaven.  Christ waits for you.  Jesus loves you.  

Beacon Deacon